Saturday, September 29, 2007

Failing With Reliv - 99.90% Chance

When someone knocks on you door or when a "close friend" corners you about joining some NEW easy to make money scheme, I know exactly how you feel. When someone you know joins a MLM you start dreading the time when you must talk to them. All they can talk about is the money they are going to make, how they heard these wonderful stories about how these products helped someone. But all you can think about is, when will this be over. :D Too many of friends have become involved and most usually fail but while they are trying the business is all they can talk about and usually I don't want to be around them.

Below are some statistics about the fail rate of some companies. The bottom line, the people getting you to join make money on your failure. Doesn't that make you feel good? OR if you do succeed you make money on the failure of others. :(

SOME SHOCKING STATISTICS


Comparing Recruiting MLM’s with No-product Pyramid Schemes, and with Gambling

By Jon M. Taylor, Ph.D., President, Consumer Awareness Institute, and Director, Pyramid Scheme Alert

IMPORTANT: The estimates below are based on our careful analysis of reports published by the MLM companies themselves. These extraordinary loss rates were derived by removing typical deceptions from the reporting of these MLM’s. Before forming your own conclusions, you are urged to perform your own research and calculations based on actual company data, which all MLM companies should provide for prospects. This is explained on the page to en titled “How can the odds of success in an MLM program be calculated?”




The odds of profiting by investing in a clearly illegal no-product pyramid scheme** (with all winners re-investing) is –
  • 667 times as great as the odds of profiting after enrolling as an Amway/Quixtar “distributor”
  • 111 times as great as the odds of profiting after enrolling as a Nu Skin “distributor”
  • 69 times as great as the odds of profiting after enrolling as a Melaleuca “distributor”
The odds of winning from a single spin of the wheel in a game of roulette in Las Vegas*** is –
  • 286 times as great as the odds of profiting after enrolling as an Amway/Quixtar “distributor”
  • 48 times as great as the odds of profiting after enrolling as a Nu Skin “distributor”
  • 22 times as great as the odds of profiting after enrolling as a Melaleuca “distributor”
Similarly, the odds of winning with a single bet on snake eyes in a game of craps in Las Vegas are far greater than the odds of profiting from any of these MLM programs.

CONCLUSION: Contrary to popular belief, the worst pyramid schemes are product-based – or recruiting MLMs*, such as the ones listed above. One can do far better gambling in Las Vegas. We're not promoting gambling - just fair trade practices, as manifested in legitimate business opportunities (as opposed to phony MLM chain selling schemes, or product-based pyramid schemes).

Wednesday, September 26, 2007

THE PARABLE OF THE MISSING CHILDREN

As you read the article below, I think you will see that it brings out some very important points when dealing with MLMs and NM Companies. The FDA and other government organizations seems to turn a blind eye to many of these companies due to the fact they are selling "Nutritional Products". But there really should be more regulation of what is being sold and what we are consuming. We have already read one post from our reader about not being able to stop using Reliv. Something is strange, and so I ask that you consider before jumping in with both feet. I ask that you stop, think, look, look a second time, and then wait a few days before making a decision to join Reliv or any other MLM. And of course, please take a few minutes to read through some of our other posts.

THE PARABLE OF THE MISSING CHILDREN

By Jon M. Taylor, Ph.D, President, Consumer Awareness Institute and Advisor, Pyramid Scheme Alert

The administrators of a boarding school decided to start a petting zoo to give the children direct experience with nature. They gathered a few animals in a trial run with the first group of youngsters. Everything went fine, until several of the children showed scratches on their arms. Upon investigating, they discovered that the culprit was a spotted cat.

After careful deliberation, it was decided not to allow any spotted animals in the petting zoo. Other animals were brought in—frisky dogs, big beautiful cats with stripes or furry manes, darting lizards and wonderful crocodiles with snouts as long as the children, birds that chirped and giant birds with hooked beaks, garden snakes and snakes that were as big around as a watermelon and as long as a cottage, and white bears with giant paws for walking on the snow. The children would be safe because none of the animals had spots on them. This wonderful collection of animals was sure to amuse these children and to be a big hit with their parents when they returned in the spring to pick them up.

The administrators felt comfortable leaving groups of children in the petting zoo for long periods of time because they had taken great care to exclude all spotted animals. However, when the parents returned to pick up their children, they were missing. What could have happened to them? The administrators knew the animals were not to blame because they had double-checked to make absolutely certain that none of them had spots. They assured the parents that wherever the children were, they must be all right.

What was the problem? No one knew. And no one did anything—because none of the children complained.

Interpretation of the Parable of the Missing Children

The administrators are legislators and those in law enforcement charged with protecting consumers from unfair and predatory business practices. The children are the victims of product-based pyramid schemes. The tell-tale spots of the supposed villains are the products and people connected with the MLM’s and the “rules” for legal compliance by participants.

MLM promoters have duped almost everyone into evaluating their programs by their “great products” (usually potions and lotions), by company “rules” requiring a minimum percentage of their purchases be sold at retail (“the Amway rules”), by seemingly liberal “buy back” policies, by the sterling credentials of their leaders, by their generous contributions to worthy causes, etc., etc. These are like selecting the animals for the petting zoo and judging how safe they are by whether or not they have spots. One should look instead at the compensation plan, especially rewards for the recruitment of participants into a chain of recruiters recruiting persons who are given incentives to buy products and recruit still more participants into the scheme. The villain – the chaining of participating buyers in the “plan” – is analogous to the animals that ate the children.

Conclusion – the Real Villain Is a Compensation Plan Built on an Endless Chain of Recruitment.

The real villains (the ones eating the children in the parable) are SCHEMES WHICH REWARD ENDLESS CHAIN RECRUITMENT OF BUYERS, that inherently constitute an unfair trade practice. Their compensation plans require people to pay money (mostly in the form of product purchases) in order to “play the game.” Though they can merely buy and sell products without recruiting, this is just a ruse, which becomes apparent in studying the compensation plan to see where the emphasis is – sales or recruiting. Recruits advance up the ladder of rewards in commissions, bonuses, and discounts by recruiting into an endless chain of recruiters recruiting recruiters, each of whom are likewise buying quantities of products to “play the game” – with exorbitant rewards going to those at the top of the pyramidal hierarchy of “distributors,” “associates,” etc. – all of whom got there by aggressive recruiting or by being one of the founding distributors.

So I would advise you to find out from the person who recruited you if you can likewise recruit others into “the plan,” and then if they can in turn recruit others, ad infinitum. Also. watch for inducements to buy products outright or by subscription without actual orders in hand. If so, you are looking at an endless chain marketing scheme, or what I would call a product-based pyramid scheme. Selling pencils on a street corner would be a more profitable business option than MLM for all but a tiny few at the top.

And remember, the best opportunities are not those seeking you out. The best income opportunities are those you diligently search out and discover yourself, based on your own talents, means, and resourcefulness.

Almost no one at the entry level of the chain in MLM earns enough to report a profit on their taxes from selling products direct to consumers. This has been confirmed by surveys of hundreds of tax professionals, who have prepared tax returns of thousands of MLM participants. And from research on available documents, we have learned that the percentage of people who lose money from participation in almost all MLM’s is even higher (approximately 99.9%) than for those who participate in classic illegal (no-product) pyramid schemes (about 90%). A person can expect much better odds of success at most of the gaming tables in Las Vegas.

When you understand it, MLM (or “network marketing”) is the perfect con game. The very people who are its victims are also out recruiting until they run out of money and drop out. But they seldom complain to authorities, believing “failure” to be their fault – or fearing consequences from or to their upline (which may be a close friend or relative). Few have the insight to see that the fault was primarily in a inherently FLAWED SYSTEM– an unfair trade practice.

In the regulatory field of consumer protection, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Since few complain, little if any action is taken. So the game goes on, with no referees to cry “foul” – just a few whistleblowers like us.

MLM’s have virtually taken over the DSA (Direct Selling Association), which works to convince consumers and regulators that MLM’s are direct sales companies. However, when dealing with MLM’s, or product-based pyramid schemes, remember that a pig is still a pig, regardless of how much money, effort, and politicking go into making it appear to be a horse. The typical MLM is no more a direct sales company than a pig is a horse.

Challenge – Start an Endless Chain of Truth-telling.

I hope this information helps you in your decision about MLM participation. Please let us know - and pass on what you’ve learned to 5 people you know. Then please ask each of them to tell 5 people about what they learned. Ask each of them in turn to tell 5 more, and each of them 5 more, etc., etc. If you break the chain, terrible things could happen to you. Just jesting.

Monday, September 24, 2007

Reliv Stories and Experiences Needed

NEEDED - Your personal experiences or stories with Reliv. Or if you know some stories or experiences of your friends, please take a moment to type them out and share them with our readers. Please send them to; relivwatchdog@gmail.com

And please remember that we are NOT looking for success stories. There are many websites with these stories.  The purpose of the Reliv Watchdog is to give people a chance to see the other side of Reliv. There have been many who have failed with the business and many more who have not received the "claimed" results from the products. So please send us your experience.

Thursday, September 20, 2007

Reliv - Road to Riches or Disaster?

"Even if you win the rat race, you’re still a rat." The American people are looking for a quick dollar and MLMs make their programs appear very appealing for most people. But sadly in the end, more than 90% fail. A few make a lot of money and most are lucky to come out with the money they made. When I sold Reliv I was lucky enough to not loose any money but I do feel very bad about the people who signed up under me as I know they lost a lot of money. I made money off thir failure and this makes me feel terrible.

Multi-level marketing
Is it the road to riches or disaster?
By Katharine B. Reader


I’m a freelance writer. I also manage properties, organize events, and am good at squeezing weeks of work into days. For me, time is life. I don’t like to waste it. This is the story of my three-year involvement with one of the top multi-level marketing companies in the country. Although the names have been changed, the essential information is correct and paints a clear picture of what the vast majority of people who venture into MLM have no way of knowing beforehand but later wish they had.

Back in late summer of 1991, I’d just finished a book I’d been working on for a long time and was having that kind of "what next" feeling some of us get when one thing has ended and the next has not yet begun. One rainy afternoon, the phone rang. It was my friend Stan.

"K.B., you’re not going to believe this. I just got involved in something incredible."

"What’s her name, Stan?" I said. "Does your wife know about this?"

"No, no, it’s nothing like that! It’s a fantastic business opportunity! With your looks, your brains, and your contacts, you’d be perfect! Can you come over Tuesday at 7 p.m.?"

"What is it?" I asked.

"I couldn't possibly do justice to it over the phone. K.B., this is big! You and I are going to make a lot of money! Just be at my place Tuesday night! Trust me!"

Reluctantly, I agreed to go. Stan lives near San Francisco, in Berkeley, and I was living across the Bay in north Marin, but he was a friend and I owed him a favor.

I arrived late. Six other people were there, none of whom I knew. There was a chalkboard set up in front of the fireplace and Stan was drawing circles on it.

"Hey, K.B.! Great to see you! Alice, could you move over so my friend can fit in there? I was just showing these people the Company’s unbelievable marketing plan ..." He continued drawing circles on the chalkboard. There was a big one on top that had "you" in the middle with rows of smaller ones underneath. It looked like a pyramid. "...and you sign up five and they sign up five and they sign up five ... soon hundreds of people are making you money!" I was thinking about my bed. Then Stan said, "The top 80 distributors averaged almost $70,000 a month last year and had plenty of free time to enjoy it. And most of them dropped out of high school! Anyone can do this business!"

His wife got up and started passing out samples of this powdered stuff mixed with water, along with some pills, and telling stories about how their neighbor across the hall lost 60 pounds and grew back all his hair and traded his wife in on a younger model, etc.

I’m not sure why I got involved. I knew even $5,000 a month in passive income would make me financially independent. Stan said I could easily earn that working half-days from home, giving me even more time to write. Stan was well aware that freedom in all its forms, living to my potential, and helping other people live to theirs were my highest values. He said the business offered the ultimate opportunity for expressing those values by helping friends and loved ones, as well as myself, improve our health and change our lives. It sounded too good to be true!

I’ve always believed in giving things my best shot, so I took the business seriously and listened to my sponsor. "You won’t make peanuts selling products," Stan said. The name of this game is, ‘Sell the dream!"’ I invested $1,000 in the recommended assortment of products and started calling everyone I’d ever known to invite them to meetings or ask for referrals.

I let my writing go. There was no time for it. I was driving 300 miles a week to talk with prospects or cart them to meetings. Stan was ecstatic; my family was suffering.

Stan assured me if I hung in we’d make a fortune in two years, max. He said the ones who failed were lazy quitters. Anyone could make it if they worked hard enough! I was working twelve to fourteen hours a day, seven days a week, looking forward to financial freedom and the gratitude of my friends and loved ones. Unfortunately, the people I most wanted to save were not interested, but I signed up a lot of others. Most of them dropped out but enough stayed in to keep me going. I’d spent most of my savings so I really couldn’t afford to stop. I liked the products, took care of my customers, and referred customers to the people in my group. Sometimes I signed new distributors under mine to help them along. I wanted the business to work for everyone.

In December of 1992, Sarah, an old friend and one of my best people, called to say she was quitting. She was out of money and out of contacts. Her friends were avoiding her. I was devastated! I was almost as invested in my group’s success as I was in my own, quite literally, since I would buy "sales volumes" from time to time for those who couldn’t make their quotas (a practice unofficially endorsed by the Company). I was pretty far out on a limb.

Sarah wasn’t right for multi-level marketing. She was intellectual and shy, not at all a salesperson. She tried to quit three times and three times I talked her out of it. I told myself it was for her good, but it was for mine. I couldn’t afford to lose her. Sarah fell into a depression and her boyfriend left her. She stopped returning my calls. I lost more than a business partner; I lost a friend.

"Forget about females!" Stan said. "Recruit men! They’re less emotional. This is a numbers game! Just say ‘Next!’ (the MLM mantra), get your fanny off the floor, and go sign up some more people!" That’s what I did.

Larry was an ambitious real estate agent bound for success. He called one day to say, "I just signed up a single mother who lives in a trailer with her four children! Last month she was diagnosed with lymphatic cancer but she’s really excited about turning her life around. She sold $1200 worth of their furniture to get started!" This stopped me cold. I called Stan and told him I did not want to make money in this way. Stan said I couldn’t hold myself responsible for the actions of others and, who knows? Maybe it was her only chance to turn her life around. I swallowed my conscience and said a prayer for the single mom as I reinvested the small commission she had made me.

I’d been in the business almost three years and was climbing the ladder of success. In July 1994, Stan’s sponsor, Max, organized a gathering of top distributors, the ones making the "big bucks" they dangled like carrots in front of their followers. A few lesser beings, including me, were invited. One of the stars, an ex-football coach, said, "MLM is a legal pyramid. If it were an opportunity for everyone, it wouldn’t be an opportunity for anyone. Just put on blinders and go for it! It won’t last forever. He led us in some goal-setting exercises to help us clarify what we want from life and how the business could help us get it. I began to open my eyes. What I saw were a bunch of burnt-out, grumpy egomaniacs, fighting amongst themselves and looking not at all like I’d seen them at the conventions or sounding like I’d heard them on tape. I asked myself if this was where I was going and if these were the people I wanted to go with. The answer was, "No!" I decided to quit. Stan, like so many before him, had run out of money and dropped out, so Max talked me into staying. His success, after all, depended on the efforts of workaholics like me lower down on the pyramid. The "dream" was turning into a nightmare.

The following week there was a message on voice mail about the "Fortune 5000 Club," referring to distributors earning monthly commissions over $5000. I wondered how many of the 110,000 or so active distributors were in the Club. I called distributor services and was told, "The Company does not release that information!" If this business taught me anything, it taught me how to persist. I called back and got a new person who evidently didn’t know the Company’s policy on covering up the facts. She told me that it was about 200. I was stunned! When confronted with that figure, the person I first spoke with reluctantly confirmed it. I asked why information like this was withheld from us. His answer was, "If people knew the numbers, no one would sign up!" I think he went on unemployment shortly after that.

I felt like an idiot. Out of curiosity, I called four or five other multi-level companies I hoped would be more forthright. The responses I got were variations on, "That information is not available, but would you like to hear some testimonials, buy some products, or sign up?"

And what about those 80 distributors averaging $70,000 a month? After travel, trainings, entertainment, phone and mail costs, samples, sales aids, products, office supplies, volume buy-ings, and audits by the IRS, the vast majority were a far cry from breaking even. As for the few at the top whose incomes ($800,000, $900,000 a month) skew the numbers, their contempt for the thousands behind them picking up the pieces of their dreams makes those slick TV evangelists look like Santa Claus. The meaning of "It’s a numbers game!" suddenly became clear. I had unwittingly involved myself in a "win-lose" of unthinkable magnitude.

Max insisted that what distributor services had told me couldn’t possibly be correct, but admitted he didn’t know himself. After making some inquiries, his spiel was that even if only one person were in the Club, the potential was there for everyone. I said, "Yeah, and you can potentially win the lottery too, but I’m not going to be selling tickets to my friends." I quit without looking back.

Two and a half years later I still haven’t cleared that business out of my life. Like fleas, it infested everything: bathrooms, pantry and file cabinets, video shelves, car, and garage. The worst was that it infested my friendships, separated me from my family, and almost made me forget who I am and what I want my life to stand for. What amazes me most is that it took so long to see it. Almost as amazing is that of the dozens of people who have tried to involve me in their MLMs (which, of course, are "completely different" from all the other MLMs!) only three that I know of have asked their companies how many distributors are at the income level to which they aspire. These three were told, "The Company does not release that information."

I guess the rest went "Next!," adjusted their blinders, and continued on down their lists. Do I have any advice on what to do if you’re prospected by an MLMer? You bet! It’s simple: Just say, "No!" I remember that Max used to say, "Even if you win the rat race, you’re still a rat."

Tuesday, September 18, 2007

Reliv - Save Your Hard Earned Money

Sadly I think that many have had the experience of this Reliv buyer. They spent months and 100s of dollars buying products only to find out in the end that it didn't work for them. They were fooled by their Reliv Distributor who quoted to them that canned stories that can be found on the website and in the "phone call list". As I have said before and will continue to repeat, if you are willing to take your chances with the dangers of Soy and try Reliv, I would STRONGLY suggest that you buy it from eBay and the 25 to 35% discount level and save yourself the pain and suffering of joining the company and making another person at the top rich.

Reliv - save your hard earned money
by relivuser , Dec 25 '03

Pros - none

Cons - high price, false claims

The Bottom Line - Just take a vitamin - same results at a fraction of the price.

I still do not know how, but a distributor got my name and knew that I had a history of fibromyalgia and endometriosis. She called me and recommended this product, claiming that it had helped many people live a normal life who suffer from these. She also just happened to have a "customer" by her side who spoke to me about how it had helped her with her own personal case of endometriosis and how she also new many people with fibro that were using Reliv with great results also.

I was skeptical, but decided to try it out for a few months anyway. It's basically a powdered nutritional supplement that tastes horrible, which you pay through the nose for. I used it for approx seven months and found that it had no effect on my symptoms for either condition.

I probably would have (stupidly) used it longer, but I eventually found out through a friend-of-a-friend how these distributors were fooling innocent people into buying this product. It's the network marketing scheme with a pyramid structure where you try to eventually get people under you to do the selling, and you get part of their profits, and part of whomever they rope in under them, etc... You can go right to reliv's site and read testimonials from their salespeople on how much money you can make.

I also showed it to a friend who is a nutritionist. She said it's no more than a daily multivitamin with some fiber and herbs thrown in, and should be making so such claims as I was sold on. The sparse amount of herbs which are in the product have no clinical evidence of helping either of my conditions. There is no question that a proper diet goes a long way in keeping you healthy, but a good daily multivitamin with minerals will fill in any areas where your diet may be deficient in any particular day, at a tiny fraction of the cost of this product.

Sunday, September 16, 2007

Reliv - Is it Made in China????

With all of the worry and concern going around about stuff being made in China and the dangers of these products, I thought it was timely when I found this article about Vitamins being made in China. Though I don't believe Reliv is having their products made in China, the question should be raised, "Where are they getting their additives from?". I have started doing a little bit of research about the Ingredients in Reliv Classic and the other Reliv products and some of these items are really interesting. Hopefully at some point I will be able to get this finished for you to read.

Most Vitamins Are Now Made In China

You may be surprised to know that China is actually one of the largest exporters of many drugs and vitamins. About 90 percent of all Vitamin C sold in the United States is from China, for example. They also produce 50 percent of the world's aspirin and 35 percent of all Tylenol. Ditto for the majority of Vitamins A, B12 and E.

Hot on the heels of the poisoned pet food scandal, and reported instances of toxic food and toothpaste, all eyes are now turning toward the Chinese vitamin market. How safe are they?

The industry in China appears to be split between top-notch operations and bottom-of-the-barrel producers. Since the United States does not require country-of-origin labels for any of our drugs, foods or supplements, there is no telling where that vitamin you are taking came from.

China also suffers from the same conflict of interest that we are seeing here in the United States, where the regulators have financial interest in the industries they are supposed to regulate and inspect.

Supplements can sometimes be helpful; however, your best bet will always be to try to get the majority of your vitamins and minerals from the food you eat. You can’t “make up” for a poor diet by simply adding vitamin supplements. Processed foods are sorely lacking in nutrients, but eating plenty of raw organic foods, farmed locally (or as nearby as possible), can supply you with most of the vital nutrients that you need.

The Seattle Times June 3, 2007

Dr. Mercola's Comment:


Almost all vitamin C sold in the United States is from China. They also produce 50 percent of the world's aspirin and 35 percent of all Tylenol. Since the United States does not require country-of-origin labels for any of our drugs, foods or supplements, there is no telling where that vitamin you are taking came from.

The industry in China appears to be split between top-notch operations and bottom-of-the-barrel producers, with no way for a consumer to easily tell which produced a given product. China also suffers from the same regulatory conflict of interest that we are seeing here in the United States.

Remember that while supplements can sometimes be helpful, your best bet will always be to try to get the majority of your vitamins and minerals from the food you eat. You can't "make up" for a poor diet by simply adding vitamin supplements.

Remember it is your total lifestyle, not a "magic" supplement, that will help you achieve optimal health. Relying exclusively on supplements is a typical allopathic approach. If you don't understand that then please watch the video I created, The Town of Allopath.

Processed foods are sorely lacking in nutrients, but eating plenty of raw organic foods, farmed locally (or as nearby as possible), can supply you with most of the vital nutrients that you need.

Thursday, September 13, 2007

Reliv Madness - Reliv Hype

MLM Madness - MLM Hype
Learn the Truth!


Far too many people are falling prey to the lies and hype that run rampant in the MLM industry. One section of the population that concerns us the most is the Stay at Home Mom, better known as SAHM. We care about moms because we are moms too.

The Stay at Home Mom (SAHM) is a prime target for MLMers because she typically is desperate to contribute financially to the household. We got tired of hearing the same lies over and over from MLM reps and decided to create a site to help other SAHMs learn the facts. In these pages, we hope to share enough information to help SAHMs decipher the truth about what they are being told by MLMers.

Is MLM Ethical?

We don't think so. In fact, we think it's a faulty business model. One that requires a blind eye in order to do business. Are there MLM reps with scruples? Most definately. But we think that no matter how ethical a person is, they can't fix an unethical business model. MLMs rely on the constant flow of new members enrolling and failing.

Less than 2% of those that get involved in MLMs will ever make ANY money. YOU are needed to be loyal to the business by placing your monthly qualifying orders while receiving little to no commission month after month. What else do you suppose pads the paychecks of those above you.

Can you Say "Cult"?

Okay, so MLMs are not truly cults but there are enough similarities to mention it. The stress and focus on total commitment, the avoidance of answering critical questions and the emotional manipulation used to achieve devotion - all very cultlike.

Bottom Line

Your enroller and upline become your family. They become your friends. They become the ones you count on. And when you have trouble making your monthly quotas, they suggest that you get yourself in further debt by opening new credit cards to make your qualifying orders. They tell you about the mother of 4 who was living in her car and managed to make her monthly orders. If you go to these people because you heard something negative about the company or MLMs, you will be told, "Those people are just negative and not worth the energy - don't waste your time on it." Your concerns will not be addressed.

http://www.mlmmadness.com/

Tuesday, September 11, 2007

Reliv - Do you Need it?

Here is a second article by the Mayo Cllinic about supplements. If you're generally healthy and eat a wide variety of foods, including fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes and lean meats, you don't likely need dietary supplements. But if you seek assurance that you're getting all the vitamins and minerals you need and you don't mind the added expense and daily routine of taking a pill, taking a standard vitamin and mineral supplement with about 100 percent of the Daily Value (DV) for the various vitamins and minerals is generally fine. It's always a good idea, however, to talk with your doctor, as he or she knows your history and specific situation best.

Dietary supplements: Do you need them?

Understand your specific health needs and how a dietary supplement might benefit your health.

Do you need to take dietary supplements? The answer depends on your eating and lifestyle habits and some factors beyond your control, such as your age. Dietary supplements may be appropriate if:

You don't eat well. If you eat less than five total servings of fruits and vegetables daily, it may be difficult to get all of the vitamins and minerals your body needs. Also, if you eat only one or two times a day, you may be limiting the number and variety of servings you eat from the various food groups.

You're a vegetarian. If you're a vegetarian, you may not consume enough calcium, iron, zinc and vitamins B-12 and D. You can get these nutrients naturally from nonmeat sources, such as fortified soy products, green leafy vegetables, legumes, whole-grain products and nuts. If you aren't able to regularly consume these foods, dietary supplements may be necessary.

You consume less than 1,200 calories a day. Low-calorie diets limit the types and amounts of foods you eat and, in turn, the types and amounts of nutrients you receive. Unless monitored by a doctor, a low-calorie diet isn't usually recommended.

You have a medical condition that affects how your body absorbs, uses or excretes nutrients. If your diet has limited variety because of food allergies or intolerance to certain foods, such as dairy products, you may benefit from a dietary supplement. Also, if you have a disease of your liver, gallbladder, intestines or pancreas, or if you've had surgery on your digestive tract, you may not be able to digest and absorb nutrients properly. In such cases, your doctor may recommend that you take dietary supplements.

You're a postmenopausal woman. After menopause, women experience a sudden drop in estrogen levels, which increases bone loss. To keep bones strong and to decrease bone loss, you need calcium as well as vitamin D — the vitamin essential for absorbing calcium. Women who don't obtain enough calcium and vitamin D through foods could benefit from taking a calcium supplement with vitamin D.

You're a woman who has heavy menstrual bleeding. If you have heavy menstrual bleeding, you may need additional iron to replace the iron depleted by blood loss. Iron deficiency can lead to anemia, a condition in which blood is low in hemoglobin, the substance which carries oxygen to tissues.

You're pregnant or trying to become pregnant. During this time, you need more of certain nutrients, especially calcium, folate and iron. Folate is needed very early in pregnancy to help protect your baby against neural tube birth defects, such as incomplete closure of the spine (spina bifida). Iron helps prevent fatigue by helping you make the red blood cells necessary to deliver oxygen to you and your baby. Your doctor can recommend a dietary supplement. It's important to start taking a supplement before becoming pregnant.

You smoke. Tobacco decreases the absorption of many vitamins and minerals, including vitamin C, folate, magnesium and calcium. But dietary supplements won't make up for the major health risks caused by smoking. The safest option is to avoid all tobacco products.

You drink excessively. Long-term excessive alcohol consumption can impair the digestion and absorption of several vitamins and minerals, including vitamin B-1, iron, zinc, magnesium and folate. In addition, you may substitute alcohol for food, resulting in a diet lacking in essential nutrients. Excessive drinking is defined as more than two drinks a day for men under age 65 and more than one drink a day for men over 65 and women. Taking dietary supplements, however, won't make up for the major health risks caused by excessive alcohol consumption.

If you're generally healthy and eat a wide variety of foods, including fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes and lean meats, you don't likely need dietary supplements.

But if you seek assurance that you're getting all the vitamins and minerals you need and you don't mind the added expense and daily routine of taking a pill, taking a standard vitamin and mineral supplement with about 100 percent of the Daily Value (DV) for the various vitamins and minerals is generally fine. It's always a good idea, however, to talk with your doctor, as he or she knows your history and specific situation best.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dietary-supplements/NU00635

Sunday, September 9, 2007

Reliv is a Waste of Hard Earned Money

I think that many have been "conned" like this buyer's product review says. Way too many are promised results that never happen. If you are one of these that were promised results but got none or someone who had negative results please send us an email with your story. Our email address is, relivwatchdog@gmail.com

"Reliv is a hoax and a waste of hard earned money
by grammapecos ,Jul 09 '07

Pros: tasted terrible---save your money--- by a one-a-day for pennies on the dollar compared to Reliv

Cons: save your money--- by a one-a-day for pennies on the dollar compared to Reliv


I was conned into buying this so called "Miracle Cure" for everything. After one month of taking the powder and $40.00 later. No difference, was not doing anything that my one a day didn't do, only I urinated more. Which meant my body didn't need all the extra mg of vitamins they add to the can.

I took the can to my Doctor for his opinion.

STATED: "the largest money makin scam since Amway and said I was just as well off to continue with my regular vitamins.""

Friday, September 7, 2007

Second Warning to Reliv from FDA

Not many realize that Reliv received two warning letters from the FDA about their products. I knew about the first one a long time ago but while surfing the internet I found another blog that was talking about a second letter. It took me a long time to find this second letter and finally had to visit the FDA website and search their archives.

DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
Food and Drug Administration
Kansas City District
Southwest Region
P.O. Box 15905
Lenexa, Kansas 66285-5905
Telephone: (913) 752-2100

July 27, 2001
CERTIFIED MAIL
RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
WARNING LETTER

Ref. KAN 2001-029
Carl Hastings, Ph.D.
Executive Vice President
Reliv International, Inc.
136 Chesterfield Industrial Blvd.
P.O. Box 405
Chesterfield, MO 63005-0405

Dear Dr. Hastings:

An inspection of your firm located at the above address on March 19-20, 2001 revealed that you manufacture various dietary supplements. Our review of your products’ labels reveals that certain products are misbranded and in violation of Section 403 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act), and Title 21, Code of Federal Regulations (21 CFR), Part 101- Food Labeling, as follows:

1, The products, "Classic", "SoySentials", "FibRestore", "Soy Sense" and "Arthaffect", are misbranded within the meaning of Section 403(q)(5)(F) of the Act in that these labels fail to bear the correct nutrition labeling format ("Supplement Facts" panel), which is required under 21 CFR 101.36, and are not exempt from this requirement.

2. The products, "Classic", "’SoySentials", "FibRestore", ‘gSoy Sense" and "’Arthaffect", are misbranded within the meaning of Sections 403(i)(1) and 403(s)(2)(B) of the Act in that the label fails to identify the products using the term dietary supplement [21 CFR 101.3(g)], or other alternative descriptive term authorized by regulation.

Most of the above violations concern certain new labeling requirements, and are not meant to be an all-inclusive list of deficiencies on your labels. Other Iabel violations can subject the dietary supplements to legal action. It is your responsibility to assure that all of your products are labeled in compliance with all applicable statutes and regulations enforced by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

You should know that these serious violations of the law may result in FDA taking regulatory action without further notice to you. These actions include, but are not limited to, seizure and/or obtaining a court injunction against further marketing of your dietary supplements.

It is necessary for you to take action on these matters now. Please let this office know in writing within fifteen (15) working days from the date you received this letter what steps you are taking to correct the problems. We also ask that you explain how you plan to prevent these violations from happening again. If you need more time, let us know why and when you expect to complete your correction.

Your reply should be sent to Clarence R. Pendleton, Compliance Officer, at the above address.

Sincerely,
District! Director
Kansas City District

Wednesday, September 5, 2007

How does Reliv Compare to Other MLMs?

Some time ago I came across this on the internet. When I first joined Reliv, my upline could not say enough about how Reliv paid the best commissions and about how good their compensation plan is. But if you look at this list below of MLM or NM companies you will see that Reliv is far from the best.

At some point I will post another article about how 1000s of people who join MLM Companies loose their money. The upline doesn't care who makes it and who doesn't. They make money with you joining and there is always another sucker to take your place when you fail.

"How Much Do MLM Companies Pay You?"

"Ever wonder how much you would be making with another MLM company?

Here are some approximate income figures based on 4 people on your first level and 16 people on your second level (you sponsor 4, they sponsor 4) each doing 100 points (points per $ vary):
  • Malibu Naturals: $56
  • Xooma: $60
  • Lexxus: $67
  • Royal Body Care: $72
  • FrutaVida: $75
  • Omnitrition: $80
  • Free Life: $84
  • Tahitian Noni: $84
  • Oxyfresh: $92
  • Agel: $100
  • Enliven: $100
  • Frutaiga: $100
  • Herbalife: $100
  • NuSkin: $100
  • Synergy: $100
  • Xango: $100
  • XELR8: $100
  • UniCity: $100
  • Isagenix: $108
  • Immunotec: $120
  • Quixtar/Amway: $120
  • Scent-sations: $120
  • Legacy: $124
  • Reliv: $128
  • Nutronix: $132
  • Melaleuca: $140
  • Nature’s Sunshine: $152
  • Waiora: $156
  • Arbonne: $160
  • New Vision: $160
  • Symmetry: $160
  • Seasilver: $170
  • Eniva: $176
  • Amigo Health: $180
  • Mannatech: $180
  • Neways: $200
  • USANA: $200
  • Vitamark: $200
  • Soma Life: $220:
  • Univera LifeSciences: $220
  • Lifeforce: $700
  • ForMor: $780
(Lifeforce and ForMor have large % payments on the 2nd level. The % are far less further in depth). These companies might be good options for those considering a strictly part time income."

Monday, September 3, 2007

Dietary supplements: Using Supplements Wisely

The Following article was copied from the Mayo Clinic website. I have mentioned this before but one of my friends in the European Union asked her doctor about taking the Reliv Vitamins and he told her that it was not good to take high dosage vitamins. 

Is high dosage really necessary? What are the long term affects to high dosage vitamins? Many distributors encourage their followers to take two, three, or even more shakes a day to get the effects they need. The normal dosage according to the can is already high, but two, three or four times that amount is absurd.

Dietary supplements: Using vitamin and mineral supplements wisely

To use dietary supplements wisely, assess your needs, evaluate the merits of taking supplements, and understand how to choose and use them.

Can you skip your daily servings of fruits and vegetables and take a vitamin and mineral supplement instead? Unfortunately, no.

Dietary supplements aren't meant to be food substitutes, as they can't replicate all of the nutrients and benefits of whole foods, such as fruits and vegetables. But dietary supplements can still play a role in your health by complementing your regular diet if you have trouble getting enough nutrients.

Vitamin and mineral ABCs

Vitamins and minerals are substances your body needs in small but steady amounts for normal growth, function and health. Together, vitamins and minerals are called micronutrients. Your body can't make most micronutrients, so you must get them from the foods you eat or, in some cases, from dietary supplements.

Vitamins. These nutrients are needed for a variety of biological processes, among them growth, digestion and nerve function. Vitamins are involved in many processes that enable your body to use carbohydrates, fats and proteins for energy and repair. Though vitamins are involved in converting food into energy, they supply no calories.

Minerals. These nutrients are the main components in your teeth and bones, and they serve as building blocks for other cells and enzymes. Minerals also help regulate the balance of fluids in your body and control the movement of nerve impulses. Some minerals also help deliver oxygen to cells and help carry away carbon dioxide.

Whole foods: Your best source of micronutrients


Whole foods are your best sources of vitamins and minerals. They offer three main benefits over dietary supplements:

Greater nutrition. Whole foods are complex, containing a variety of the micronutrients your body needs — not just one. An orange, for example, provides vitamin C but also some beta carotene, calcium and other nutrients. A vitamin C supplement lacks these other micronutrients.

Essential fiber. Whole foods provide dietary fiber. Fiber can help prevent certain diseases, such as diabetes and heart disease, and it can also help manage constipation.

Protective substances. Whole foods contain other substances recognized as important for good health. Fruits and vegetables, for example, contain naturally occurring food substances called phytochemicals, which may help protect you against cancer, heart disease, diabetes and high blood pressure. Many are also good sources of antioxidants — substances that slow down oxidation, a natural process that leads to cell and tissue damage. If you depend on dietary supplements rather than eating a variety of whole foods, you miss the benefits of these substances.

Who needs dietary supplements?

Many people don't receive all of the nutrients they need from their diet because they either can't or don't eat enough, or they can't or don't eat a variety of healthy foods. For some people, including those on restrictive diets, dietary supplements can provide vitamins and minerals that their diets often don't. Pregnant women and older adults have altered nutrient needs and may also benefit from a dietary supplement.

Choosing and using supplements

If you decide to take a vitamin or mineral supplement, consider these factors:

Check the supplement label. Read labels carefully. Product labels can tell you what the active ingredient or ingredients are, which nutrients are included, the serving size — for example, capsule, packet or teaspoonful — and the amount of nutrients in each serving.

Avoid supplements that provide 'megadoses.' In general, choose a multivitamin-mineral supplement — for example, Centrum, One-A-Day, others — that provides about 100 percent of the Daily Value (DV) of all the vitamins and minerals, rather than one which has, for example, 500 percent of the DV for one vitamin and only 20 percent of the DV for another. The exception to this is calcium. You may notice that calcium-containing supplements don't provide 100 percent of the DV. If they did, the tablets would be too large to swallow.

Look for 'USP' on the label. This ensures that the supplement meets the standards for strength, purity, disintegration and dissolution established by the testing organization U.S. Pharmacopeia (USP)

Beware of gimmicks. Synthetic vitamins are usually the same as so-called "natural" vitamins, but "natural" vitamins usually cost more. And don't give in to the temptation of added herbs, enzymes or amino acids — they add mostly cost. Note that some herbs can interact negatively with certain medications.

Look for expiration dates. Dietary supplements can lose potency over time, especially in hot and humid climates. If a supplement doesn't have an expiration date, don't buy it. If your supplements have expired, discard them.

Store all vitamin and mineral supplements safely. Store dietary supplements in a dry, cool place. Avoid hot, humid storage locations, such as the bathroom. Also, store supplements out of sight and away from children. Put supplements in a locked cabinet or other secure location. Don't leave them on the counter or rely on child-resistant packaging.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/supplements/NU00198

Saturday, September 1, 2007

Buy the "Generic" Alternatives

As I read through this product review by this poster a smile came to my face. In many ways I think this person might be right. I think in many ways you could save a lot of $s by buying a generic form of the Reliv Vitamins or simply popping a few pills. My dad buys some pills that are powder but have been capitulated to go down easy. They are made by Purity Products and when compared to the Reliv Nutrition charts, many of these products are better than Reliv.

But I think the part of this review that caught my attention was the fact that talked about the Reliv Distributors giving the same stories. The experiences they share, the healing stories, the amount of money you can make is passed from one meeting to the next, each person takes these stories home and has no personal experience or knowledge of them being true but they pass them on as the Gospel.

Buy the "generic" alternatives
by thetruthplease ,Oct 21 '06

Pros: High absorption
Cons: Over the top, far fetched testimonials and claims. Pyramid sales commissions make it way overpriced.


Not bad for you, but Reliv is basically a vitamin supplement that you can get much cheaper. True, vitamins don't absorb as quickly, but why is speed so important? It's the nutrients that are important, and a few minutes don't make a difference. I tried Reliv Classic, Now, Innergize and FibeRestore, and it might as well have been a placebo. The sales persons are almost TOO WELL trained to push this product and I believe the testimonials and claims are WAY over the top! They go to conventions to be groomed what to say, and if you talk to more than one sales rep, they give you the same "personally experienced" testimonial! Yes, it is a result of their motivation to make, for example, $10,000 or more per month pushing this product. It is almost cult-like the way these sales people push this product. By the way -- the sales reps are advised to go to websites such as this and give good reviews, so be careful of the source of the positive reviews you read. Chances are, they are dealers! Save your money and buy a very good multivitamin.